Modern medicine can treat the disease, but what about the whole person?
Thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I couldn’t agree more. I believe in my early twenties I resolved my traumas unknowingly with psilocybin and time in nature. My mindset was curiosity and resolve and the set and setting were peaceful. 20 years later, I am thrilled to see the research support this, and I’m hoping I’ll be able to legally access it soon.
I have often thought that up until the early 1900s in the USA, this was medicine for mankind worldwide. A religion came through and banned medicine that enhances consciousness while making alcohol legal, which can be argued that it lowers consciousness. Will we be able to correct course?
When I was an oncology patient of Dr. Agrawal, we spoke many times of holistic health, our mutual conviction that holism, not merely specialization, is the optimum road to health, not the absence if dis-ease, but the path to health. The knowledge,compassion,conviction and unceasing energy and intellectual curiosity he brings is a huge gift to the field of genuine health CARE thus to all of us. I admire and esteem you all for your taking the personal and professional risks required in order to benefit us, the humans you seek to guide and assist in a meaningful partnership. Thank you, Dr. McBride for making this discussion happen and making it available. And congratulations to you on your newest change in your own professional life. All best wish to you in your new practice.
I can’t wait to listen as my brother has found help with MDMA. I tried a Ketamine treatment for my anxiety and it unleashed some serious pain( I stopped) and I have walked through it with the help of therapy. I have read that the MDMA is more tolerable. Thank you for sharing this!
I have so many take aways from this podcast. I agree with other comments made, it was a very healing talk, especially, appreciated the outlook of not pathologizing long-term trauma symptoms, like anxiety and depression. This was an exceptionally well presented podcast by all 3 of you, the host and the two presenters. I read Michael Pollen’s book on How to Change your Mind, many years ago and hoped that psychedelics would one day be focused on in healing both the body/mind. We all crave for a healing therapeutic environment of trust and safety and resolutions. These two physicians who have changed their scope of practice and created SunStone Therapies are to be greatly admired and I wish them all the best in their endeavors now and in the future.
I am a clinician with experiences of traumatic losses myself. While I might not refer a client or participate myself in MDMA trials, this talk was very healing in not pathologizing long-term trauma symptoms and focusing on the healing therapeutic environment that encompasses trust, safety, and holding. This was a top-notch talk for those of us who heal and hope to be healed.
This was a great listen, thank you. I especially look forward to the day when psychedelic therapies are more widely available to people with life-limiting illnesses (safe containers and support post-treatment being key, of course). My own experiences with plant medicines have been absolutely key in making my relationship to mortality a healthier one. There’s huge potential here (and, frighteningly, huge potential for damage to be done if / when it’s not done ‘right’). I also have concerns regarding some of the indigenous cultures whose sacramental use of plant medicines is being effected by the surge of their use in the west, and that not enough attention is being given to the threats that some of these tribes face, or to the wisdom that they have to offer after working with these medicines for centuries.
Honestly, so many of the clinical trials in this space are funded by companies trying to cash in on psychedelics. It gives me pause that they are pushing to get these to market too quickly. The FDA is no longer concerned with efficacy, either (see recent aduhelm Alzheimer’s drug approval).
And Peter Thiel is backing Compass Pathways, in fact, and they are trying to patent psilocybin so no one else can use it. Ridiculous. Corporate greed is ruining healthcare.